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As you feel so strongly about this I suggest you do a proper detailed & comprehensive refutation of Hall's arguments in his book and film. Not this lazy cherry picking.

Such cherry picking is typical of lazy journos anxious to win their argument & to disregard every aspect of the complete case.

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Oh Willie! Can't you see the magician's tricks. The bits in the book are just distractions - I'm focused on the real evidence. Can't you handle the Truth? Do you think little Saffie's parents were using the bombing to conceal 'an accident'? Do you believe Hannah Mone lost her finger while cutting the hedge? Do you believe they found their crisis actors in A&E departments prior to the bombing? If you do, that makes you one gullible fool and there's not much more I can do for you if you like lies so much.

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Oh Aisling! It’s precisely because I’m not gullible that I don’t buy your bargain basement attack on Richard D Hall.

Halls work on the Manchester ‘bombing’ has been around for up to 4 years.

What took you & others so long to ‘out’ him?

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I became suspicious when I saw Gemma O'Doherty goad the alt media into covering his case claiming he was the 'best false flag investigative journalist' out there and then to see the pair cross promote each other. Serious alarm bells. I knew then to go looking, and lo and behold it didn't take long to find a treasure trove of nonsense packaged as 'research' just like O'Doherty's operation. Neither are working alone. They've so many tricked but sure so be it. That's what people get for overlooking lies and deception. You get the journalists you deserve. It's all a reflection.

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Halls work has been around for years. I first encountered him in 2017. His work on Manchester has been in the public domain since 2019.

You say you went looking at Halls work because of a connection with your bete noir Gemma O’Doherty. Hardly an objective introduction. You went looking with a prejudiced mind & surprise, surprise you found what you were looking for.

It all neatly fitted into a your predetermined outlook.

Not objective journalism.

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No it's called a hunch in journalistic terms. You're good a twisting information too. Do you work with Richard D Hall btw?

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Ah So you’re moving on to smear me now.

Someone who doesn’t agree with you must be twisted & working for the other side.

Is that one of your ‘hunches’ too?

For the record I don’t work with or for Hall or anyone connected to him. I’ve never spoken to the man. I’ve more of a connection with you than him.

He’s more of an investigative journalist than you’ll ever be. Maybe it’s just simple professional jealousy we’re seeing here.

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Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Thank you for your common sense and courage. Sad to see Ian Davis and James Delingpole bite the dust but there you are. A salutary lesson to remain discerning.

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I doubt that Aisling and Richard have any direct knowledge of what happened. Hearsay and educated guesses do not count as evidence. They are in fact distractions. This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

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Sep 4·edited Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Cherry picking would suggest that Hall is largely right and that negative comments are just pedantism. Nothing of course could be further than the truth. Hall is nothing more than a flimflam merchant who just knows his market (sadly). There is nothing lazy about pointing out distasteful chicanery. Your slavish credence to Halls Walter Mittyesque nonsense in no way adds any validation to it. It just makes rational people a little bit more sad.

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Sep 9·edited Sep 9Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Hi Aisling. I would be happy to discuss the evidence---which clearly exposes the Manchester Arena bombing as a hoax---with you any time that is convenient. Please let me know when you would like to discuss it.

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Richard D Hall has done great work in exposing state terrorism.

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Deal with what I've presented Jamie or are you so attached to the lie that you'd prefer look away and pretend it's ok?

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"Deal with what I've presented Jamie"

What exactly have you presented Aisling?

Wholly unevidenced argumentum ad hominem,

Opinion, nothing more.

Complete absence of critical thinking or analysis.

Belief based mental weakness on full display.

The alternative media you deride was created to advance debate and critical analysis of the 'stories behind the news' that you discourage from being investigated.

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Just read your piece on Kate Middleton.

Aisling Aisling Aisling, how could you treat a woman with cancer like this? Probably in the same way as Richard D Hall treats those poor Manchester bomb victims . The '' static '' daffodils '' and the '' disappearing ring '' look like planted clues to a hapless Conspiracy theorist, do they not? Perhaps better to go along with the official narrative rather than bring Conspiracy theorists and their wretched questions into disrepute. . What's the difference between you and Hall ? Tell me, I'm interested.

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Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

I wrote something in a similar vein about crying wolf after every human tragedy. Some of the ‘awake’ have stared for far too long into the abyss, and are creating monstrous non-truths which merely feed into the hands of the soulless propagandists we’re up against. It’s bewilderingly sad.

Really great piece, Aisling. 🙏

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Thank you Abi. It's like a race to the bottom of who's the most awake. Ego getting in the way of enlightenment! Like 'I'm so awake I'm picking on a guy and his daughter in wheelchairs because I'm on the inside track'. Not good at all. We've got a discernment problem. People can't figure out right from wrong and they're being encouraged to pick on the wrong people. It's at times like this I can't blame my normie pals for being suspicious of conspiracy theorists.

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I hear you 👍

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Sep 4·edited Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

The Truth Scene in the north of England is made up of people whom in all the years I have done events there and met them are generally of extremely low intelligence. Not because they are English but because a very perculiar culture has risen among them in that they echo the establishment's view on Jihad in that it does not really exist.

It is something that has left me flabberghasted at many times. Take the grooming gangs. There are hundreds of Truthers who go on line from places like Rotherham, Oldham and Barnsley and if not their immidiate familiy members, but half the teens girls on their street have been victims of Islamic grooming gangs. There are SURROUNDED by Jihadists who would kill them in a second and yet they are all on line going 'zionists' this and that and defending Hamas when they live in towns under Jihadist seige.

I am not sure if it is the cannabis, but there is something seriously wrong with many of them. They will tell you to your face that no Jihadist attack has ever happened anywhere in the world and it is all Mossad, CIA or Mi5 false flags. They do things like share the photo of the cop who was texting his wife dying outside Charlie Hebdo going 'lol, he is playing video games during a so called terrorist attack' - the stupidity is almost incomprehensible.

But there is also a real psychopathic aspect to it in that they laugh and mock the victims. I recall after the Bataclan mass Jihadist slaughter there was an awful photo of the kids bodies piled into an oval and the English Truthers were going 'all seeing eye inn't...no one was killed' Every single attack they do this. They can't comprehend they are dealing with someone's daughter, child, sister, boyfriend etc in a pile of slaughted flesh. It is like a video game to them and the Rich Planet 'investigation' into the Manchester Arena demonstrates that it is a video game that rots their minds.

Jihad is the Clear and Present Danger for all of us and we need to be honest about what we are dealing with.

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Yup. The so-called Truther community has been trained to blame everything on the Jews. They repeat their counterintelligence lines like good little monkeys thinking they have it all figured out. They don't seem to realise all the naughty boys and girls, who've been banned and censored off mainstream social media for questioning the Covid hoax, and channelled off to Telegram, are being brainwashed. I'm embarrassed by the level of stupidity at times. No wonder the 'normies' don't trust conspiracy theorists. Maybe they're right.

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With this comment and the one from Thomas Sheridan above I can see through your Zionists apologist agenda I have just read your Wikipedia entry and while I admire your stance on Covid vaccines you are really a nobody in the wider Truther community.

Richard D Hall and Gemma O’ Docherty are brave and brilliant researchers and journalists

You could not hold a candle to to them never mind James and Iain Davis. I would love to know what motivates you to do what you’re doing. Surely your not a paid a hill now you’ve left MSM or is it a narcissistic mid life crisis of Look at Me.

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Schill not till. Just go back to the day job

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"They repeat their counterintelligence lines like good little monkeys...“

Aisling, know you of talking monkeys?

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This is not rational. Zionism or more accurately Sabatean Frankism and Muslim Fundamentalism/Jihadism are two separate and distinct threats to global peace and to civilisation as we know it. We don't have to choose which evil to oppose. A curse on both their houses. By the way, both are funded by the same source. Go work that one out.

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well said Anne,i understand perfectly what you are saying,what is going on today has been planned for centuries if not millennia,

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I think people don’t know what to believe anymore 🤷‍♂️ have either of you looked at the McCann clips Hall done, I’d be interested what you thought about them, they really are worth a look, what’s most important is people are asking questions about what is being said on both sides of the argument 👍

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so they are of low intelligence, it takes one to know one is a true saying,

my experience of people of the north of england is,they are the salt of the earth

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Well said Thomas

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Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Thank you so much for bringing this nonsense out into open, Aisling. I had family members at that concert. My grandson heard the blast from outside, sitting in his car waiting for his then girlfriend who was there with her younger sister. Katy, who has since become mother to two of my great grandchildren, had her ears damaged by the blast, not by the noise but by the force. She didn't actually hear anything. This happens when you are within a certain distance from the epicentre of an explosion. This is proof there was an actual explosion and not just a 'bang' as some people are trying to claim. She was so concerned with getting her sister out safely that she ran past people with blood streaming down their faces but didn't stop. This has since made her suffer from survivor's guilt and PTSD for which she still receives counselling. My daughter, an ex nurse, knows one of the nurses who treated the injured and one of the young men who died was a neighbour of the woman my daughter cares for. There was nothing fake about those deaths and injuries. Many are still living with the mental and physical scars.

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Thank you so much for sharing your story Teresa and thank God your grandson and his then girlfriend survived the blast. My heart is with the victims and survivors. I'm ashamed by the way they've been treated by the so-called Truther community. It amounts to evil. I believe the victims. I believe their injuries and I can only imagine the fright of that night. It's so clear for those with eyes to see that Richard D Hall is manipulating information and tricking his followers into a trap. They're too blind to cop and don't love the Truth enough to spiritually protect themselves from his lies. All I can do is point out the absurdities but as you can see here, they've hardened their hearts. It's Biblical.

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Sep 5Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Thank you, Aisling. Keep sharing the real truth and calling out lies. 🥰

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Truth and lies difficult to separate. Anecdotal stories can't be taken as truth.

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Sep 5Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

They can when you know the people telling them and people in different sections of the venue having experiences that gel together. Physical damage can't

be argued with. I know my family members are telling the truth. They have no reason to lie. My granddaughter-in-law didn't fake her burst eardrums. I find it unbelievably arrogant for people who weren't there to question the truthfulness of those who were.

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Isn't it just incredible Teresa? I'm flabbergasted! Truthers are so attached to Tricky Dicky's lies they'll tell the victims of the bomb blast that they're wrong and that they know better. It would really make you wonder about 'this side'. Just goes to show you how easy it is to brainwash people.

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t seems to me there should be a relatively easy way to prove this. the bomb will have necessitated the presence of paramedics from the whole city. these are not people who bullshit. if they all say it was a real bomb (and I'm not sure if that has ever been investigated) then we can say it happened.

Edit, I've just looked it up. Guess how many attended.

three.

I smell bullshit.

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Half of what Hall has on his site full of free stuff is probably crap but all of it is interesting and as someone here has already said the simple way to show he is wrong on this case is to take each point he makes one by one and refute them not chuck a bucket of crap up in the air and hope some of it sticks. A bloodied picture of a hand does not a bombing make and videos of people sawing off smiling people's heads in Syria with blunt knives does not a beheading make as we all surely know by now.

I wonder why no-one is getting upset about the half of the stuff on his site that I regard to be crap but they are determined that they are going to attack him on this one that I think may actually have some merit? I think his most important terrestrial work is the Madeleine case and attacking him on that would air a lot of facts that those he named as being in that strange little place that you would never have dreamt would ever holiday there do not want aired again so he is attacked instead for his "obviously deranged" view of a bombing when we know for a fact the British government has been directly involved in murdering British citizens as the 7/7 video showed and the British government tried to put the maker of that video away for years when all he was doing was showing they had lied and luckily the jury was horrified at what was going on after seeing the video and freed him. Dr David Kelly anyone?

Which of these various cases that I believe Hall and others were entirely correct on calling out down the years when you were working for the very media companies they were calling out are you telling us we should be ignoring next lest it upsets those in power, ..... sorry lest it makes us look foolish in front of "friends" who already think we are foolish?

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It's clearly an operation John. If you look at Hall's website you can see there's a team behind it, the aim is to get on side with the conspiracy theorists with well-worn conspiracies like Maddie McCann and 7/7, trot out some lines they want to hear but ultimately undermine and sabotage the whole movement with nonsense like his conclusion for the Manchester Arena attack. If people loved the Truth more they'd spot this easily but they're so comfortable with lies, they don't notice. It's always been an ethical issue. That's why we're in this mess.

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Since when did you become an expert on how many people put together or maintain and update a website? If you compare the source code of of the homepage of www.richplanet.net to your site www.exquisite.ie it appears Richard's site has a lot less Javascript compared to yours and I wouldn't rule out that he might have actually coded it by hand as he said in a video he knows about website coding. Your site looks highly unlikely to have been coded by hand and was most likely done with GUI website creation software. And speaking of your website www.exquisite.ie unless you have forgotten last year on Telegram you actually said it was thanks to me for flagging the fact it did not have an SSL certificate before you got it sorted and I had been pointing out that it was either just to to www.exquisite.ie as http://www.exquisite.ie not encrypted which displays security warnings in most browsers by default for years or by invoking https://www.exquisite.ie triggered a security warning but by proceeding and going to your site showed what looked like someone in some other country had registered an unauthorized certificate with your domain as you either neglected it or were simply not aware of the importance of having a https cert as you were paying to have the site hosted only but not for not that much more money also get an SSL cert even from a different service provider. Getting that SSL cert on www.exquisite.ie could have saved lives if people out there were hearing about that hadn't visited your site in years that followed you previously changed their mind about getting the next booster from reading an article on www.exquisite.ie or maybe it resulted in nothing but the point I made then was that if you have a website with an SSL cert that appeared to be bogus it would be a great excuse for the media to say your website was fake or it was hacked and you did nothing.

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Sep 4Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

I was at a festival over the last bank holiday week end. At one of the events during the festival a guy stood up and said I need to tell people this Nobody from Southport was involved in the stabbing in our town. They brought several busses with darkened windows people got off a young man with the BBC camera crew he said he was an actor off the Dr. Who show started stabbing children . Nobody was hurt he said it’s a lie I’m still trying to fathom this out I do not have a TV or buy newspapers so no idea what is going on God help us in all at this time

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It's a way of diffusing the attacks on our society. Tell people they're not real so they go back to sleep or remain numb and inactive.

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Sep 7Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

Aisling you should listen to the James Delingpole podcast with Iain Davis on the Manchester ‘bombing’. It’s very comprehensive.

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Hi Áine, I've the whole thing examined. Iain Davis has been conned by RDH's phoney 'evidence' and he's pumping out false information. Delingpole has taken the bait. Very foolish. There was a bomb and people died. They're not acting. This is very dangerous territory. Martin Hibbert is right to sue RDH who has behaved appallingly. He's accused the man of all sorts along with Gemma O'Doherty - it's sick. Neither are reliable investigative journalists. Their findings are manipulated and lead the viewer to a false conclusion. All I can do is warn people but the brainwashing is intense on this one. It's astonishing. Anybody who has fallen for this con can never slag off those who fell for the Covid scam. This is just as bad. The victims are real and deserve our sympathy not opprobrium. It's so sad to see how many people have been conned into a very dark place. Martin Hibbert deserves a massive apology for what he's been subjected to by these cretins.

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Well I’m only trying to get to grips with the subject Aisling but I do really like Davis and Delingpole and suspect they are men of integrity. I know little about Hall so you could very much be right about him. I just don’t know enough.

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The "Barr Footage" was not part of the "evidence" presented to the Inquest. That footage contained material evidence proving that some of the witness statements were false. The Inquest also worked on the presupposition that a bomb containing 3,000 pieces of shrapnel exploded in the City Room. There is NO evidence of this, and much to suggest that this was not the case. Iain Davis' book on the background evidence to all of this is available to download FREE as a pdf copy on his website-iaindavis.com or in paperback for about £15. Iain's Substack outlines in detail the four days of the recent trial, where Hall was being charged with harassment, for what was essentially making reasonable enquiries as a journalist. He was not allowed to present any evidence relating to the substantive issue-that is, was there a bomb.

Davis' recent conversation with James Delingpole is also well worth a listen-link https://www.podbean.com/site/EpisodeDownload/PB16C0C0FYFQUN. It's on Odysee. The link and other related links are on Iain's website.

This whole "terrorist menace" which was ramped up following the night of the big bang helped provide the pretext for the devastation of Libya which followed. Can anyone think of a similar false flag which brought about death and destruction, say in a place like Afghanistan?

I don't know what happened in Manchester, but when we are not allowed to question narratives, be afraid that all may not be as it seems. This whole matter requires examination and scrutiny. ALL of the evidence must be examined, including all video recordings, eye witness statements and autopsy reports. This has never happened. Why?

I personally wonder if Ms O'Doherty's involvement might be to muddy the waters and discredit Hall. That theory fits right in with her recent aberrant behaviour.

Most importantly, even if he (Hall) is wrong, and there is no evidence whatsoever that he is, free speech means just that-the right to say sometimes offensive and downright incorrect things and then own them, and take whatever criticism and vilification may ensue. I may not like what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it, and all of that.

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The Barr Footage is just misdirection. More the fool Iain Davis for falling for that one. He's obviously not a real journalist. Of course it wasn't admissible in court. It's nonsense. A cheap trick focusing on one shot and jumping to all sorts of baseless conclusions. There was a bomb and people died. Do you really think there were no casualties and all the people involved were just crisis actors? Do you really believe they found their cast in A&E departments in the UK prior to May 22, 2017? Do you really believe Hannah Mone's finger was chopped off cutting a hedge and not blown off her hand by a nuts and bolts bomb in the Manchester Arena that night? Why do you think she's running down the stairs with her sister captured on CCTV footage terrified for her life with all the other concert goers? Do you really believe Saffie Roussos's parents were concealing an 'accident' so pretended their daughter died in the attack? Come on Dr McCloskey. You've bought into nonsense and now you're being proud. Admit it. You've been had. Still think you're great btw.

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Even if your thesis is true, and I reiterate, there is NO proof, what about the right to be wrong? What about free speech? These are fundamental questions in our censored age.

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No proof? Tell that to the 22 dead people and their families. Tell that to Martin Hibbert and his daughter Eve. No proof? Look at what that spoofer has made you believe. Why are you ignoring the points I'm making? I've cut straight to the heart of the matter. Are the victims real or fake? If you go along with Richard D Hall's absurd 'findings' you'll land yourself in a dark place. You'll have turned your back on the Truth to defend lies and fabrications. For what? Surely the objective Truth is more important. Go that route and you've chosen not to believe the victims and instead you've chosen nonsense like the hedge cutting scenario. This means I can no longer trust your judgement. Can't you see how devastating that is on a macro level. This is the aim of the game. If Richard D Hall can trick you into believing absurdities before the world, his charade will undermine the whole movement. It's a big deal. The victims aren't crisis actors.

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Sep 5Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

I’m a free speech absolutist because it allows one to call out the self-indulgence of increasingly ridiculous theories without fear or favour. Or at least it should do. There seems to be a strange groupthink developing within the ‘awake’ movement which is worryingly cult-like.

As I’ve said before, there is a danger that this bizarre ‘staged’ trend could actually impact the testimonies about, for instance, lockdowns and vaccine harms. In theory, that could all have been staged by ‘real’ people… but we know it wasn’t because we have firsthand experiences.

This RDH stuff is playing into the hands of the enemy. It’s insane and nihilistic.

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Sep 12Liked by Aisling O'Loughlin

I’ve listened to your response to Richard and Iain. I believe you are emotionally embedded and sucked in to the soft piano music and the tears! After covid their spell should have been broken.

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Thank you for taking the time to hear us out Alison. The victims are either dead or they're not. It's rather stark. Seven years later it's clear they're really dead, not crisis actors. So how did they die if a bomb didn't kill them? That has not been established and that's where the whole argument collapses. It's great most of us saw through the Covid scam, but logic and reason but still apply. RDH's 'evidence' is misleading. There was a bomb and real people died and were injured. This is a new low, disbelieving the testimonies of the survivors and families' of the dead. They're NOT crisis actors. Martin Hibbert and his daughter Eve got their injuries from the bomb blast - ZERO evidence has been put forward to support the theory they were injured in a car crash. ZERO. Do you realise how serious that is? No evidence just a baying mob who've been conned by a fake conspiracy theorist RDH and his phoney investigative journalism, that's led his followers astray. Not good enough! I've been at this a long time. I'm used to deciphering real from fake. RDH is a fake and so is his evidence. Iain Davis has made the mistake of taking him at his word, so have a lot of people, at the expense of the Manchester Arena victims who are very real.

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just drink this in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5546759/Manchester-Arena-victims-treated-just-THREE-paramedics.html

over 50 ambulances scrambled, only one was allowed to get access. I'm sorry but this is as fishy as hell.

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Apparently they were clearing the area for more bombs.

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yes, that was the excuse given. Hundreds lying dead or injured, and the order went out 'you ambulance people are not allowed into the site. there could be more bombs'. So when we come to investigate a mass killing from a bomb, we can't speak to any paramedics, cos they weren't allowed in. 7/7 deployed 200 paramedics for a similar bomb situation, with twice the. casualties. Manchester? Three.

This one fact alone is enough to ring a major alarm bell. You may not if you are an editor, stake your life on the fact that this means it's a false flag, but that's not the standard we need to reach here. We as the general public don't have to be bomb proof. We are just looking at the evidence and reserving our opinion.

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I've only one problem with Rich's work and thats that he was a bit too flippant and giggly in his presentation. If he stayed sober and just outlined his observations and thoughts I'd say he has every right to speculate. in fact its a duty to speculate. He did make me think and he was proven right about a couple of points he witnessed there . He should have been more dignified about the whole thing but he poses good questions. If i were caught up in some horror I would accept scrutiny . I wouldn't be offended if people tried to get to the true facts. Its important for us to learn not to trust the mainstream and to learn to be critical thinkers. Also to know our limitations. I doubt they could hire so many crisis actors myself , but I'm ok with him raising the possibility. His Maddie investigation was a huge eye opener for me.

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The world is being run by a crime syndicate,laws do not apply to them,they lock up or dispose of people who try to expose them or oppose them,they force illegal migration on the countries of europe with the intention to destroy economies/religion/sovereignty as they have destroyed america,they manufacture the notion that there is a mysterious pathogen out there,and enforce the world population (through bought and paid for politicians) to take a poisoned jab as a solution,now we have a brave man who is determined to expose some of the psyops & criminality done by government agencies, he showed the involvement of MI5 & MI6 in the london underground bombings,and they having to murder a young brazilian electrician who innocently stumbled on explosives strapped to underside of carriages by them,he then exposed the london bus bombings in tavistock square, Tavistock house being the psycological wing of MI5/MI6,now he is up north exposing the secret service involvement in the manchester bombing/explosion,riveting evidence being shown step by step,which he is not allowed to present in court,this gentleman of the highest integrity is now being attacked by a former irish main street media news reader,and an abortion loving former employee of the rothchild banking system,tommy sheridan,now where would you get more reputable commentators.can anyone fathom what is going on here.

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Dear Aisling, watch Hall's documentary, read Iain Davis' book on the subject, then come back and apologise.

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Simon, I've cut straight to the heart of the matter with this video while you were being played with magician's tricks with these books and their misleading content. Are the victims real or fake? Where are you on that? Forget Richard D Hall and Iain Davis for a minute. What's your opinion? This is on you. Your soul. Your conscience.

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The victims are real. There's no doubt about that, including all of us who were horrified by the event as reported at the time. Have you never heard of Operation Gladio, the NATO, CIA and MI6 backed campaign murdering innocent civilians on many occasions as false flags terror attacks in Europe? Do you think our governments become too virtuous to be involved in anything like that here in the 21st century?

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Thank you for admitting the victims are real. That's important. Very important.

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Somewhat ironically it has been RDH who has for decades been pointing out that the FE psyop exists mainly to discredit otherwise respectable investigations into conspiracies. Currently Aisling is a FE devotee who thinks Richard risks discrediting the trade union with his formal engineering approach to investigations. Go figure.

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If very important to the powers that shouldn't be that you keep believing in the space fantasy. Of course he was denouncing FE. You're just afraid to use your brain and consider why water always finds its level in a container and all that. It might hurt your brain, so go on and let the nice snake oil guy tell you how to think.

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Like any FE devotee you are not even slightly serious about understanding the shape of the Earth. In twenty years of listening to FE guff I have yet to meet a devotee who understands any of the models well enough to hold a GCSE level dicsussion about them. Water only 'finds its level' to the degree that you can perceive or measure curvature so as an experiment it is totally useless unless you are approximately 9km above a large body of water.

On the other hand I can prove you are not on a flat plane simply by having you draw the path of the sun across your location and then compare it to solar paths from other parts of the world. This is a direct proof that anyone can perform, you will have conclusive results in a day and only one model can survive the experiment. I already have the feeling you will not accept this as proof.

On the note of investigative journalism take a look at the text bias used in your own content. The latest video contains the words 'Bait, mistake, disillusioned, highly manipulative, unreliable' and all before your audience has even made it to the play button. You're not encouraging any kind of critical thinking here, you're only presenting your audience with the binary choice to support your own polemics or face a barrage of insults (which you have already started with me on your first reply). You're going to end up with a following of highly supportive idiots who repeat pseudoscientific mantras they have no intention of ever understanding.

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Clearly I don't court popularity Nick. The objective Truth is all that matters. And yes they are the appropriate words for this piece. They are true. It's you who can't handle it but that's your problem.

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True perhaps relative to your current thinking (which is entirely subjective) and you know damn well that you'd never get it past an editor if journalistic balance was a concern. Why does every reply from you contain some form of insult?

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Actually, that's not conclusive.

Other people could be lying. Or they might be editing the photo.

There are much more convincing ways to argue against flat earth theory.

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Sorry not quite with you - what photos and other people?

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Oh, did you mean she should travel to the other places herself?

If that's the case, the view from the plane and the time zone shift should be pretty convincing. I thought you meant asking people on the Internet to help.

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Yes and ultimately it depends if Aisling thinks uncovering the greatest hoax in history is worth a few day trips to watch the sun rise and set in other countries. Clearly nobody else from the Flat Church does...

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Another one who can't handle the Truth. Come on now Nick, focus. Did you say some shitty comments about Martin Hibbert etc and now you'd prefer to hang on to the phoney investigative journalism rather than face your own complicity in a rotten episode for so-called truthers?

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